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Practical ACL for clients editing their sites

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I have adopted SP Page Builder as a preferred tool for small client websites and have a high respect for what you have created. But, alas there is a problem, it looks like the ACL implementation is an all or nothing switch. Users can either edit, delete and add through page builder or not depending on the ACL settings.
I would have expected the create/delete option to actually control the ability to create or delete current page builder addon’s, leaving such a user to be able to edit the current item but not delete it, or be able to create more page addons.
The use case must be a requirement for many webmasters who use your tools to create client websites. We use the tools to create a website, our skill selecting what addons to add and where to put them, but our clients want to be able to change the text and pictures. So, having an ACL way of restricting a user to only edit the current page addons is vital to ensuring they do not get carried away and delete their page or add some new random addon. I also think that an editing user should not be able to add a new row or delete a row.
What I am asking is that the ACL create/delete option be used to control the ability to create new page addons or delete current page addons, let edit feature enable a user to edit the contents of an addon.
I appreciate that you at least have ACL implemented, the Joomlaart JA Pagebuilder requires users to be a SuperUser to make changes, but they have a plan to include ACL and when they do it is supposed to disable editing-users from setting padding and other formatting options leaving only text/heading and image editing. It seems to me that would be ideal for the webmaster /client user of your tool.
So please consider my request for future updates and try to give it some priority so you remain competitive in this segment. I want SP Page Builder to have a long and happy life.

15 Answers

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
Hi, thanks for Your question and explanation.
Yes, we have in plans to improve more ACL for SP Page Builder.
Not only You asked for it, believe me.
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As you might seen in our manual: Manager, Administrator and Super User can edit Pages from front-end - not only SU.

MBCS LLC

More than a month ago #Permalink
Hi, any update on this? We too have the same requirement, but we would like the ability to restrict to just changing text and images and nothing else that is available in the front end editor panel.

MBCS LLC

More than a month ago #Permalink
Hi, just wanted to follow up on this important feature. Are there any plans to implement and if so, when? One implementation would be to have a selection of only the inline editor. Thanks in advance.

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
I cannot say exactly when, but for sure in upcoming months.

MBCS LLC

More than a month ago #Permalink
I cannot say exactly when, but for sure in upcoming months.


THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
We planned Lite version of front-end edition, where your client will be able to edit conetnt added by you only ... or something like this.

MBCS LLC

More than a month ago #Permalink
That sounds like a good approach. Only issue is how the credential syncing will work between our full access and then their limited access.

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
You mean that you give client Super User rights? Not only "Administrator"

MBCS LLC

More than a month ago #Permalink
You mean that you give client Super User rights? Not only "Administrator"


No. I meant that when we create the site we register the site on your site and this provides our Page Builder tool credentials showing we have the Developer version. We provide maintenance support for our sites and thus need to keep Developer enabled. So you are saying that via ACL permissions the client will have Lite and when we log in we will have Developer?

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
In last update small ACL improvement was done.

MBCS LLC

More than a month ago #Permalink
Thanks for the info. It doesn't appear that this helps solve this thread's goal. If incorrect, can you provide guidance.

On another thread I mentioned ArkEditor. They have a framework for third party extension developers to integrate their product. Could possible use portions of ArkEditor just for frontend inline editing of text without launching the entire Page Builder front end editor.

http://arkextensions.com/products/ark-inline-framework

Appreciate the effort of making this a reality.

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
I talked with ArkEditor team on Joomla conference, great guys and very solid product. Personally, I use it from time to time.
But sorry, we have only extra problems with all integrations. If they would change code we have to also... etc.

I talked about it with our developer servers weeks ago, other user had a similar idea... but the answer was NO then. We also have to wait for J4.0, maybe from core, we take some features.

MBCS LLC

More than a month ago #Permalink
Thanks for checking them out and understand your integration concerns. As you can understand, having this capability is a high priority for us web developers. More and more customers want the ability to update content and images on their sites. Gone are the days of static sites.

You currently have an inline editor as part of the front end editor. Is there a way to isolate this feature of the front end editor via ACL?

Thanks in advance for your effort on this matter.

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
For sure more advanced ACL should be in next year updates. We fully understand why webmasters need it.

MBCS LLC

More than a month ago #Permalink
For sure more advanced ACL should be in next year updates. We fully understand why webmasters need it.


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