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I am pretty sure people have been asking for the SP Page Builder to come with a Smart Search plugin since version 1.1. It is now years later and version 3.0.1.

There is still no Smart Search without creating workarounds. What is the timeframe for completing this?

40 Answers

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
Hi Daniel,
yes, we have this topic on our TO DO list (quite high), so I hope in next weeks it will be done.
First, we have to fix all annoying errors, then new features.

ukphotoguy

More than a month ago #Permalink
Just adding my vote here, slowly getting sites to use SP Page Builder but the lack of smart search has limited it to smaller sites. My more commercial sites demand a better search and so use Joomla Smart Search but not being able to see any content made in Page Builder is a serious limitation.

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
every vote counts, thanks. We remember about it.

Stefan Riva

More than a month ago #Permalink
I have raised this topic a few moth ago, but still no changes. In the meanwhile a rudamentary search is possible, but only in articels which where created in Pagebuilder. Joomla articles with Pagebuilder content are still not visible for the search.

So, what means "this topic on our TO DO list (quite high)" after a few month. Sorry, but this is taking to long.

I guess a lot of people wainting for an answer with a date.

A functional search is really needed for a lot of sites.

The software ist only useful for small sites which doesn't need a search for a couple pages.

Stefan

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
I will remind our developer.

Stefan Riva

More than a month ago #Permalink
I hope the solution will provided soon. :)

djundi

More than a month ago #Permalink
I am pretty sure people have been asking for the SP Page Builder to come with a Smart Search plugin since version 1.1. It is now years later and version 3.0.1.

There is still no Smart Search without creating workarounds. What is the timeframe for completing this?


Yes, because now Smart Search do not detect SP Page Builder Page, only category, but page NOT!

ukphotoguy

More than a month ago #Permalink
I have to agree that this is a big limitation, if you can write it so all the key adorns get indexed particularly the main promo text and if achievable joomla module. That would take your product to the next level because now any content added by the website managers would become searchable.

Stefan Riva

More than a month ago #Permalink
The thing is, pages created with the component, have a little indexing. Pages created inside the artikel have no indexing.

After all these month of customers asking frequently for this feature, it looks like Jommshaper does not care much about it.

I don't use it, it's a nice pice of software, but with this serious issue not usable. I have switched to another pagebuilder who has search function build in.

Stefan

Daniel

More than a month ago #Permalink
Personally, I would rather have Smart Search for SP Page Builder than Helix Ultimate by an order of magnitude.

Does anybody else out there think this?

ronny_vdb

More than a month ago #Permalink
I agree. Very important

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
I have conformation, it should be added in SPPB 3.1.3 update, I hope in next days.

Charles Southgate

More than a month ago #Permalink
That's good news. It is much needed.

Stefan Riva

More than a month ago #Permalink
Hi,

I was happy to read that smart search works now, but the result was disapointing.

I have just installed Version 3.1.3 and it is a mess. Smart search still does not work. It's the same issue like before. The search result is the same. Content builded inside Pagebuilder shows only the page title and content builded inside an article can't be found by smart search.

I made a new plain installation of Joomla 3.86, installed Pagebuilder (plugin enabled) and created an article, linked the home button to it and created a search modul. That's it. Search does not work. Result page is empty. Is there anything I could have done wrong?

I had a existing installation, updated it - didn't work either.
Does anyone has a installation with a succesful search?

Stefan

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
Have you indexed site resources? With "Index" button.

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Mr Stuart Forrester

More than a month ago #Permalink
Hi Paul

Have to agree with Stefan, the smart search indexing system does not index SP Builder content within an article. We created two articles one with and without SP Builder content and the smart index search only found the copy within the native Joomla article.

We also tried to find content built as a dedicated SP Builder Page on our home page and that too was not indexed.

I'd really love to build more sites using your framework, but we need content indexed. Ky concern is that if Joomla cannot see it, can Google?

Our test/development site can be found here http://privatecare.jdevcloud.com/index.php

Have you indexed site resources? With "Index" button.

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
As I know for sure it's working for Pages (SPPB)
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I have to make some tests..

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
Key concern is that if Joomla cannot see it, can Google?


I like jokes, but it was dummy one. Google can index all content even those one you don't want to !!! If you don't believe me ask your IT friends.

Stefan Riva

More than a month ago #Permalink
Let’s take a quick look at what’s new in SP Page Builder 3.2.

Important security update
Improved page and article searching :(
Performance enhancements
More stable Falang support

Let's see what do they actually mean for you and the end users.

Here is the reality - PB3 is still not able to search for content in articles.
Also after indexing content. Still only a promise to make this work.
And still different search results between PB3 articles an Joomla native articles see image 3.

Seems like no one of the Dev team is able to solve this.

Testet with J 3.87 an PB 3.2

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Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
Sorry, I will redirect your complaint.
I hope it can be fixed soon.

pepperstreet

More than a month ago #Permalink
(Following…)

PB v3.2.3 Smart Search index works on the page Title only?!

Stefan Riva

More than a month ago #Permalink
Only on pages created with pagebuilder are indexed (only title will be shown, no intro text), not on pages created with pagebuilder plugin. If you need a functional search, you better look for a different product. I did. They working now for one year to solve this lack, but dev team ist able to find a solution. The software is good, but what is a CMS without a search - almost nothing. :(

Seems like the interrest of fixing this issue is more than low.

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
I sent messages to developer...
but as you know..

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Stefan Riva

More than a month ago #Permalink
Hi Paul,

I don't care about the search, if the dev team handels all issues in that way, what do you expect if you run into another big issue - I don't have the time to wait so long for a solution. I have costumers paying money for service and if the developer does not support me, I can't give support my costumers. Especially when it comes to serious issues like this. Just imagine you have 50 or more pages created and you need a search. Do you want to create every page again with a different software, do it twice? Not me.........

I have switched to Joomlashine pagebuilder that has a functional search.

Stefan

Nayem Majhar - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
pepperstreet @sriva#

No, it also works for content too. If you edit any page, you have to reindex for Smart Search. This is the way how Joomla Article working. If you don't reindex, how the Smart Search will show the expected result.

Paul Frankowski - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
Indeed, I made few test with Accordion addon, where I added keywords and after reindex - Smart Search could find those words.

Mr Stuart Forrester

More than a month ago #Permalink
Hi Nayem

Joomla content is indexed by the smart search system, but Joomla 'articles' created using the SP Pagebuilder plugin only have their title indexed.

Our site http://www.drivesoftwaresolutions.com uses pure SP PB for pages like the homepage and this content is indexed, but pages created within Joomla like this one - https://drivesoftwaresolutions.com/drive-consultancy/drive-training-services built using the SP PB plugin within a Joomla article - only have their titles indexed (even if you force the smart indexer to run).

Building in SP PB may be an option, but then you lose key functionality like publish/unpublish dates.

So I guess what is needed is a hybrid J! Smart Search of whatever works for SP PB3 native for the SP PB3 plugin used in Joomla article creation - because we love using it in articles!

pepperstreet @sriva#

No, it also works for content too. If you edit any page, you have to reindex for Smart Search. This is the way how Joomla Article working. If you don't reindex, how the Smart Search will show the expected result.

Nayem Majhar - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
Issue found, fix will add with next update. Thanks

pepperstreet

More than a month ago #Permalink
Issue found, fix will add with next update. Thanks

I guess you are talking about a fix for native PB PAGES, right?

What about the "Article Integration"? I assume the SmartSearch sees the content as an article... but can't parse or index the PB content inside. Do you have any solution for it? If AddOn content is impossible, what about using the OpenGraph data instead?

Nayem Majhar - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
I am talking about 'Article Integration'. Now, you will be able to search 'Article made by SPPB' content. Thanks

Stefan Riva

More than a month ago #Permalink
Hi there,

updated to V3.25 with the promised fuctional search in articels - and guess what.....no changes.
Still the same mess, I have deleted all indexes, rebuilded them - can't find anything that is in Joomla articels made with PB.
Added new words to the articels - no changes.
there is nothing that looks like somethis has be done. If you search for title words it comes up, but still no intro text either, just the plain title.

Was anyone successful with the update?

Stefan

Nayem Majhar - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
Thanks for your quick response and patience. Please try the same procedure couple of hours later.

Nayem Majhar - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
Please try the same procedure again. Now it will work.

Stefan Riva

More than a month ago #Permalink
No, it does not. I created a new article, deletet the index rebuilded the index, no changes. Installed PB over the existing one. No changes at all.

By the way, data is indexed or not, this has nothing to do with time. A normal article will be indexed within seconds and can be found by the search.

Stefan

Nayem Majhar - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
Please follow this step


  • Update your SP Page Builder component.
  • Go to SP Page Builder menu found on the top ribbon of the Joomla control panel.
  • Open Integrations. Uninstall Joomla Article on the Integrations page, then install it again.
  • After installing Joomla Article there, enable it.
  • Now go to Content > Articles from the control panel’s upper menu.
  • Open each article in editing mode and save them again.
  • Finally, go to Components > Smart Search.
  • Re-index your contents. That’s it.

Stefan Riva

More than a month ago #Permalink
Hi,

Thanks, works now. But what about the category and intro text of the content?

PB search result:
1. PB2
(Page - Article)
2. Pagebuilder Artikel
(Page - Article)

Joomla article search result (and the search word is highlighted in this case "Urlaub";):

1. Normaler Artikel
(Uncategorised)
... dolore magna aliquyam erat, sed diam voluptua. At vero eos et accusam Auto et justo duo dolores et ea rebum. Stet clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Urlaub ...

Stefan

Nayem Majhar - Staff

More than a month ago #Permalink
Because Page Builder content has no intro text. Also, the category of SPPB page builder only useful for orientation of pages. So, can't show them.

Thanks for understanding.

Stefan Riva

More than a month ago #Permalink
But visitors need a little information about the content for their orientation, if the content is that what they are looking for. Like the joomla search result with that little snippet of text. Otherwise they have to open every site of the result and check it.

pepperstreet

More than a month ago #Permalink
Because Page Builder content has no intro text.

What about using another "intro source" for the indexer?
For instance the "original" article intro-text. It is still available in integration mode.
For instance the "Open Graph" description field.

Stefan Riva

More than a month ago #Permalink
Hi,

doesn't make any sense to do that. A pagebuilder has offer the same functionality as the built in.

The search snippet (intro) depends on the search word and the result includes that part of the article with this word, which means the intro source text must contain then the whole article. This means double work.

Stefan


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