I have the same problem using Regular Labs Conditional Content in the Header section based on device size. Is there a solution?

Since it has been over two weeks since this was submitted without any response, I also decided to submit it to Regular Labs hoping that they might have an idea about why their Conditions are not working on SP Page Builder pages. I will let you know what they say if they have any ideas on how somebody might fix this problem.

I received the following answer from Regular Labs:

This is most probably down to some sort of caching that is being done by Page Builder. Which would cause the result being caches and therefore the conditions to get ignored.

I figured SP Page Builder just uses the regular Joomla caching. So, I thought that possibly my page optimization software may be doing something with the caching that is causing a problem. But, I believe that is NOT the case because when I disable the page optimization software the problem is not fixed. So, it does seem to me that this bug is for Joomshaper to fix.

Sean

Hi There!

Thanks for contacting us.

To make it clear, our SP Page Builder doesn't have any caching enabled, it has only compressed some files. So, it seems the conditional environment is not supported for a different reason.

However, You may try to disable the production mode if you have it enabled in the global configuration of SPPB: https://prnt.sc/BthvHMCR0XP9

You can also check if you have disabled all caching options in your Joomla environment: https://prnt.sc/b0lGT_PMv9gr

If these don't help, you may contact your extension provider again to know if they can help to make it compatible with SPPB too.

Best Regards

Thank you very much for your reply. I actually have the production mode setting set to "No" already. I have also turned off Caching in the Global Configuration and also turned off all of my JCH Optimize caching and the problem still exists.

Interestingly enough, the developer of the Conditional Formatting, Regular Labs feels like the issue is created by SP Page Builder since their software Conditions are working within core Joomla pages, like the Joomla articles. They did not give me a difinitive answer about why SP Page Builder does not respect the Conditions while Joomla does respect them. But, in their mind that puts the cause of this problem squarely onto the SP Page Builder.

I believe some Joomshaper developer needs to take a good look at this problem to determine exactly why the SP Page Builder will not allow us to use the Regular Labs Conditions. If we can't solve this issue then the people I have developed this site for have a very difficult decision to make.

Since they need Conditions to work, they will have to pick between using the Conditions or using the SP Page Builder. Since more than one person is reporting this issue to you, and because Regular Lab Conditions is an extremely useful and popular program, I would think that Joomshaper would want a developer to dig into this a bit and discover the actual cause of the problem so we would definitively know what is needed to solve it.

Hopefully that can happen.

I came back to take a look and see if anybody was going to consider this request.

Hi Sean,

We are extremely sorry for your experience.

Actually, the team is busy with SPPB 5 releases. So it is not possible at this moment.

After the stable version is released, I will let our developer team know about it to see if they can consider it.

Best Regards

Thank you for your answer. I do want to note that your sentence as follows troubles me somewhat:

"I will let our developer team know about it to see if they can consider it."

Of course they CAN consider it. The question is whether they WILL consider it.

I am so encouraged to see the progress you are making with Joomshaper right now so it breaks my heart to have to tell my clients that we need to move their site away from using the SP Page Builder since being able to target their content to specific geographic areas is essential. This is going to be a HUGE extra job for me.

I will have to explain to them, and profusely apologize to them for encouraging their use of SP Page Builder, because for some reason Joomshaper is not sure whether then "can" consider fixing this very serious problem they are experiencing. I did not forsee this coming and it is going to force me to completely redesign their site. Ouch!

Sean

Hi Sean,

Can I have a full backup of your site, please?

We are suffering while trying to do so.

The following tutorials may help to take backup with akeeba and save it with zip format:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16fMwHR2ZAa3yctnP5rn7zm6YlwB7ijQj/view

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HwEmKAzw-uVWQHdASGHU31nJaJKBSR56/view

Best Regards

Hi,

I need to send the site backup to the developer to investigate.

Would you please give me a akeeba backup?

We could not take a backup, for some reason it is taking so long when we tries.

Best Regards

Thank you very much. We had ads running in the right hand column on our homepage and on article pages that were set to only display in New Zealand. It worked on the Joomla Article pages but did not work in the SP Page Builder pages. How should I get this Akeeba backup to you? I have made the backup. Are you able to login to our site and download it from the Akeeba Backup Component?

Here is the name of the backup: Backup taken on Thursday, June 22, 2023 22:30 EDT by Sean Carney

There are three files to the backup. I have placed them within a .zip archive. I also uploaded all three outside of the zip archive. Once youhave the files, I will remove them. Thank you so much. Please let me know if there is anything else that I need to do!

I am hoping this link will work for you.

Sean

Hi Sean.

Just advice, place your link in a Hidden Content field. Otherwise, anyone can download it.

And a couple of thoughts about Joomla Module Addon. This addon (if you look into the code via Dev Tools) displays only the content of the module, but not completely the entire module. Such things as the complete wrapper of the module, module title are cut. I assume that this is the cause of the problem, since the Regular Labs Conditions Sets works at the level of the module wrapper or maybe module title but not at the level of its content.

I think you should find out from the Regular Labs developer which one parameter of the module is used for inclusion/exclusion. Based on this, the Joomshaper team will be able to find a solution, I hope.

I am also interested in solving this problem

Thank you very much for your advice and for your question. I will ask Peter from Regular Labs for a comment on your comment and hopefully this will be the catalyst to help us solve the problem. As soon as I get an answer, I will post it here.

Sean

Here is an answer from Peter at Regular Labs:

"So from my point of view there can be a couple of situations here, not knowing exactly how SP Page Builder goes about modules:

1. SPPB has its own logic for collecting and rendering modules. It does this differently to Joomla and does not generate a list of modules that it passes on to the plugins via the event trigger prepareModuleList. Meaning plugins cannot affect the module list. Which would render Advanced Module Manager useless on those pages.

2. SPPB overrides the module list that is generated by Joomla and passed on through the plugins, which undoes everything Advanced Module Manager is trying to do. Which would also render Advanced Module Manager useless on those pages."

I can confirm that the issue still exists with SP PB5.2.7. Conditional display of modules is very important for my sites as well.