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Update: Re-introducing Backend Module Editor in SP Page Builder Pro v3.4.11

20 May 2019
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Update: Re-introducing Backend Module Editor in SP Page Builder Pro v3.4.11

We keep saying that we always respond to our users' requests. We do everything in our power to come up with the solution that will meet their demands. Some think we are just saying that, words don’t mean anything, some guess we are exaggerating. But no matter what others think, the great always keeps doing what s/he does. The same way, JoomShaper will keep listening to its customers’ no matter the cost is.

Backend Module Editor Returned

As you already know, Joomla has limitations when it comes to customizing modules. That’s the reason why we had to shift to frontend editing to customize the SP Page Builder modules. However, that was before we asked what you like the best. When we got to know your preference, we sat down, took a break and started thinking about it. After long meetings, with the help of our brilliant developers, we found a way to reintroduce the backend module editing options. Now you can edit SP Page Builder modules in both frontend and backend. The new solution gives a way to support loads of data in modules, so don’t hold back when you need to add something to your modules via backend module editor.

Update: Re-introducing Backend Module Editor in SP Page Builder v3.4.11

Now that you know what this update is focused on, let's have an overview of the full changelog.

  • New: Reintroduced SP Page Builder module backend editor with large data support
  • New: Title field added for the Icons Group addon
  • New: Drop Cap font size option added to Text Block addon
  • New: Show related videos from the same YouTube channel in Video addon
  • Update: Send empty value for unchecked checkboxes in Form Builder addon
  • Fix: Progress bar stuck for values lower than 6% in Progress Bar addon
  • Fix: Undefined variable issue in the Icons Group addon
  • Fix: Content responsive issue in the Image Layout addon
  • Fix: Overlay not showing on frontend view issue in Slideshow addon
  • Fix: Page template importing from administrator page issue
  • Fix: Button link type icon margin issue

More New Features

We have added a few useful features to different addons. Like you can name the icons of the Icons Group addon within the same addon. Up until now, you’d have to use any other text addon if you wanted to do that. There’s a new feature in the Video addon using which you can show related videos from the same YouTube channel when the video ends. We have also added font resize feature for drop cap in the Icons Group addon.

A Few Fixes

In this update of SP Page Builder, we have fixed some minor known issues as well. We have addressed the undefined variable issue of Icons Group addon, fixed frontend overlay showing issue in the Slideshow addon and improved content responsiveness of the Image Layout addon along with other fixes.

In today’s SP Page Builder v3.4.11, we focused on user feedback. We intend to keep on doing that in our future releases as well. In case you think we missed something, or you’d like to have a new functionality in SP Page Builder, drop your thoughts in the comments below and keep an eye out on our blog for related news.

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Comments (49)

Dmitry Goncharov
Dmitry Goncharov
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New: Title field added for the Icons Group addon

I'm sorry, but I found no difference from 3.4.10

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    Dmitry Goncharov
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There is, please look again. At the bottom of addon settings.

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Chris
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Excellent, good to see the admin module editing back

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    Chris
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Thanks, we had to

Andreas
Andreas
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AWSOME! Thank you!

//BackEnder for life

Saifur Rahman
Saifur Rahman    Andreas
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Happy customers for eternity

Mo Ahmed
Mo Ahmed
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Backend Editing - pleaaaaaaaaaase never remove it again!

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    Mo Ahmed
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Thanks, for sure we will not.

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LOUE
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Yeahh , enjoy to retrieve this feature, thanks !

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    LOUE
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Thanks, happy to hear it.

claudius21
claudius21
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Wow page load is much faster too now.
I get an "Sorry we couldn't find your match request!" when I try to import page templates

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ssnobben    claudius21
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Seems you done something bcs true it loads faster too for some reason on some sites

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Panagiotis Podaropoulos
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Very well done

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    Panagiotis Podaropoulos
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Ευχαριστώ. Glad to know that you liked changes.

Javier Arevalo
Javier Arevalo
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One of the main facts for which I am with you is that you know how to listen and rectify when necessary. The SP Builder is not a great tool just because technically it is, but by the people who are behind its development.

Thanks for listening.

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    Javier Arevalo
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Thanks, you're welcome.

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Wiebe
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Thank you so much, SP Page Builder is just like Javier says a great tool. Good to see things are fixed (importing Page templates for instance) and backend editor is back!

Thanks foor listening and making SP Builder better and better. Can't think of a better tool to make our (Joomla) websites!!!

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    Wiebe
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Big thanks, you're welcome.

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Andrea
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Ieeeeee

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    Andrea
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I hope it's positive reaction

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markmark
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Super! Thanks!

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    markmark
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Thanks. Glad to know that you liked it.

antsites
antsites
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Fronted editor has error

Uncaught DOMException: Failed to execute 'removeChild' on 'Node': The node to be removed is not a child of this node.
at HTMLIFrameElement.<anonymous> (http://mysite/components/com_sppagebuilder/assets/js/engine.js:30:99568)

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    antsites
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Since when?

antsites
antsites    Paul Frankowski
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Yes! And another big problem after updating! All modules don't work, all empty after saving

Mo Ahmed
Mo Ahmed    antsites
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I had that happen too - luckily I've only one module working like that making it a quick fix.

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Interbeek
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You did a Great job again to bring de backend module editor ?

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    Interbeek
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Thanks for the trust.

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Wendy
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Thankyou !!

Saifur Rahman
Saifur Rahman    Wendy
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Thank you back

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hossein
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Thank you very much for this update. We are still waiting for promotion in Opt-in Form.
Added the ability to navigate to another page or download or display a pop-up after the user's email is registered.
Because it's important to increase email registration by the users.
As well as Best optimization for the RTL languages.
I said this again because I'm awaiting publication in any update.

Saifur Rahman
Saifur Rahman    hossein
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I'll convey your message to the development team.

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skistner
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if I use the module backend editor and then click Save in the bacjkend editor all data is gone and the module is empty. Changing and saving via frontend works correctly. Is this a known problem?

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skistner    skistner
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When I create a new SP Modul it probably works in the backend editor as well. Does the update have a bug when taking over the modules for the backend editor? Now creating 35 new modules would be a real horror.

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    skistner
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In case of problems we prepared SPPB module fix, you should be able to find on forum in SPPB category "URGENT - SP Page Builder module became empty ..."

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skistner    Paul Frankowski
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Hey Paul,
thanks for the info.
Now I know it was probably a user error of mine.
With the info below I solved my "problem" by doing it the way Mamun described it. Thank you very much. Now we rock the construction of our new shop further.

If you edit in front-end then save that in front-end after that reload back-end and edit whatever you want then save it in back-end. If you module in front-end you must need to reload it in back-end to bring change of front-end. This is one way edit system either edit and save in back-end or edit and save in front-end.

Thanks,
Mamun



Hello,...

Hey Paul,
thanks for the info.
Now I know it was probably a user error of mine.
With the info below I solved my "problem" by doing it the way Mamun described it. Thank you very much. Now we rock the construction of our new shop further.

If you edit in front-end then save that in front-end after that reload back-end and edit whatever you want then save it in back-end. If you module in front-end you must need to reload it in back-end to bring change of front-end. This is one way edit system either edit and save in back-end or edit and save in front-end.

Thanks,
Mamun



Hello, Al Mamun,
thank you very much for your info. Seems to me to have really been a user error. I tested it with 3 modules as described by you - AND --- ALL GOOD --- PERFECT. Thanks for the great tool Pagebuilder, with which I as a non-programmer can finally design my pages myself. So happy :-) :-)

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Saifur Rahman
Saifur Rahman    skistner
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We are glad that you really are enjoying SP Page Builder. It was designed to help people who don't have any coding knowledge to build amazing feature rich websites. According to your feedback, it seems SP Page Builder is serving its purpose quite well. Good luck with your development

Chad Arentz
Chad Arentz
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I just updated today, and the upgrade made my SPPB module stop displaying on the front end.
I had to restore a backup containing an older version of SPPB.

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    Chad Arentz
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Yes, I read your forum post, gave an answer. comment here wasn't needed if you have acive membership.

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Pieter
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Thanks guys, big life-saver!

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    Pieter
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Thanks a lot. In case of problems we prepared SPPB module fix, you should be able to find on forum.

antsites
antsites    Paul Frankowski
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Paul! Please!! Save us!!! We very need a bug fix))) All our clietns very angry....

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    antsites
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I am not a hero, but I sent you a link with useful information.

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Patrick Toulze
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Still the sad blocky editor. You need top bring the exact same visual editor also in the back-end, some of your competitors do. The way user edit their site have to be EXACTLY the same in the front-end & backend. This is for that only reason that the choice of my visual drag &editor (wysiwyg) editor is NOT SP Builder but one that respect Joomla & give the exact same page builder experience in both the front-end & the back-end. Sorry SP.

Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski    Patrick Toulze
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And your opinion is based on screenshots only? Personally, I don't see a reason to have exactly this same editor on front and back-end, otherwise, JoomShaper would decide to have only front-end editor. Some users more use back-end editor than front-end, should we disappoint them, I don't think so. But thanks for feed-back.

pepperstreet
pepperstreet    Paul Frankowski
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It's all about personal preferences and usage. I have to agree with Paul, it makes sense in backend. At least to have a more schematic/structured display is easier to manage, faster to get an overview, faster to drag things around! Good to layout quick drafts. Personally, I tend to use the backend much more often than the real wysiwyg frontend. Although, the frontend has advantages in fine control of padding/margins, responsive display, text editing.
Maybe there is a chance to have both worlds together?! I remember that WP Divi is able to switch from wysiwyg to structured display. WP...

It's all about personal preferences and usage. I have to agree with Paul, it makes sense in backend. At least to have a more schematic/structured display is easier to manage, faster to get an overview, faster to drag things around! Good to layout quick drafts. Personally, I tend to use the backend much more often than the real wysiwyg frontend. Although, the frontend has advantages in fine control of padding/margins, responsive display, text editing.
Maybe there is a chance to have both worlds together?! I remember that WP Divi is able to switch from wysiwyg to structured display. WP Elementor has a small navigator panel with dragNdrop. Limited, but not too bad.

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Patrick Toulze    Paul Frankowski
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Personally, I don't see a reason to have exactly this same editor on front and back-end.



I will reverse the question and tell me one reason to force users to learn 2 systems of edition, that make no sens?
This is completely counter-productive for an editor that pretend to simplify the life of site editors.


Between you and me that backend blocky stuff is an absolutely nightmare for 90% of the real life editors that end up modify corporate web site out there. This will only be use by power users that like to render their life miserable.

Why I will play and waste precious time with...

Personally, I don't see a reason to have exactly this same editor on front and back-end.



I will reverse the question and tell me one reason to force users to learn 2 systems of edition, that make no sens?
This is completely counter-productive for an editor that pretend to simplify the life of site editors.


Between you and me that backend blocky stuff is an absolutely nightmare for 90% of the real life editors that end up modify corporate web site out there. This will only be use by power users that like to render their life miserable.

Why I will play and waste precious time with your little blocks in backend, when I can just create an empty article or a custom module and start my edition in the full glory of your builder in front-end. It make no sens.

Look at Wordpress Gutenberg do you see 2 completely different editors when you are in backend or in front-end, no, why they will do that ?

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Otherwise, JoomShaper would decide to have only front-end editor


Yes you can do that and go against that great possibility that Joomla offer and Wordpress offer by trying to force YOUR vision on Joomla users. They will not like that, I don’t, my allegiance is to Joomla not to a component maker.

I like to see a dynamic and evolutive website with thousands of articles, new blogs articles, custom modules, etc... be manage efficiently by a front-end editor only, sorry to say but your editor is far from that.

I see tons of reason to have the exact same way of editing in both frontend and backend and the first is simplicity. One system to learn, one simple tool to do the job.

Please don’t tell that you can’t do what JSN PageBuilder do?
(and I’m not endorsing their product, I prefer yours from far... but will never use it for that backend problem)

In JSN PB, in the backend, when you are in your article or your custom module editor windows you just press a button that say edit and BOUM, from the backend, you start to edit your content with the same editor that you use in the front.

I’m not a big coder, but if JSN do it, I know you can do it and save yourself the pain to maintain 2 system of edition and offer the best Joomla drag & drop Editor.

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Patrick Toulze    Patrick Toulze
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One thing you can do, if your blocky editor have any advantages, I personally don’t see any.

Keep it and add an “Edit” button that will bypass it to bring the full frontal experience of the SP Page Builder in the backend.

Like that you keep the blocky editor and have the full power of your editor in the powerful backend administration of Joomla.

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aostv
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I just love the way sp page builder pro was meant to be designed and developed by keeping in mind about the requirement of all the newbies like me to develop a site.

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