Thanks Ofi! Still would like to be able to go into the component without all the convoluted click, click. I have installed on Joomla 4 and prior to this update it went into the pages menu. Personally I am just going to stick with the last version of PB and will no longer be upgrading because I refuse to make things more complex then they have to be. Should have taken advantage of the side menu in Joomla 4 like everyone else is doing, would have been far better than this thing you have created now!

You are welcome 😊

I understand and appreciate your feedback. Things will be better in the future. It is just the initial release.

Thanks Ofi, I did get around to testing this more and apparently the idea is to move us all to making pages and editing to the frontend. Unfortunatly for me I never did like that inteface and never used it. If that is the direction you are going with this I will be forced to find an alternate method of making my pages because I am not going to ever be comfortable with that weird interface. Beside that I fail to believe it is even safe to have this functionality and if I cannot fully manage my websites from the more secure admin area, I cant support the feature.

I agree with Kevin, I never used the frontend for editing and as it is an added security risk it makes it all the less appealing.

Version 4.01 broke many pages on multiple sites.

I will unfortunately not be updating from here on and will remain with the last version prior to the 4.0 update. The last working version I have priorto 4.0 is version: 3.8.7. If there is another version after this prior to the 4.0 changes can you please advise me on where I can download it?

Go to the download page George and scroll down. They are still supporting the 3x and there is an update to 3.8.8 you can find. I found once I updated it Joomla starts screaming to update to the new 4.x version so I had to disable that in the manager so it stopped nagging me to update.

Thanks Kevin.

Would like to ask, is it the developer intention that PageBuilder will only be able to be edited on the front end moving forward? I ask because my subscription is coming due next month and if this is the direction being taken I am no longer interested in contuing my support for the development of this powerful tool and will be forced to find an alternate option. I think you are going to find there are a lot of us that will not be supporting development. I find it mind blowing such a drastic change has been made out of the blue like this. I believe you guys are seriously out of touch with your customers and what we love about PageBuilder!

Yes I would like to know as well. I will be looking for an alternative also if there is no option other than front page editing.

It's inconceivable in my mind how you would remove functionality from a product for the sake of streamlining and risk losing customers and potential customers. Narrowing your customer base by restricting your software is not the best idea in my opinion.

Hi George,

Yes, I fully understand your point of view, I also mostly used back-end editor. But current trends (also in WorldPress) are to keep one editor view only, it's easier to see changes that you are doing and for us code one area etc.

Hopefully for you (and me) SPPB 3.x will be supported for next 2-3 years, so you don't have to be worry about upgrade and just keep 3.8.x on all your websites.

You know Paul, the reason I use Joomla and NOT Wordpress is because of its flexabillity and power! If the idea of Joomshaper is to keep with Wordpress trends might I suggest ending development for a REAL CMS and just develop for Wordpress which was created to give anyone that wants to call themselves a web designer without going through the process of actually learning how to be one, a tool to fake it and make themselves look like something they are NOT! That is the trend you are talking about and that makes Joomshaper an enabler if you want my opinion!

Thanks for the heads up, its clear that PageBuilder is heading down a path I refuse to go in and while I will continue to use 3.8.x for the forseeable future I am not going to renew and I will instead go on the hunt for a REAL page builder tool that cares more about being trendy instead of giving REAL web designers/developers the tools they can use to speed up their projects!

Paul thanks for your reply. It seems futile to argue the benefits of a backend editor when decisions are made without customer feedback. It's also possible that Kevin and I are in the minority when it comes to appreciating the functionality of this Pagebuilder.

I agree with everything Kevin said. I myself have been using Joomla since the Mambo days and although I had tried out Wordpress among other CMS' I found them very restrictive and not as robust as Joomla when it comes to security, customization and implementation.