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Page Builder 4 - It's A Mess

Mo Ahmed

Mo Ahmed

SP Page Builder 3 years ago

So after deciding to rebuild a website that was running J3 to J4, I thought I'd jump on the latest-tech train and build this website with SPB4.

Usability.

  1. The amount of clicks required to do anything is crazy.
  2. What's more annoying is that while you can customise certain things, it's far, far from intuitive. When I'm clicking addons, I need to click over and over and over, to get to the same bits, because the editor insits on these tiny little windows.
  3. I can't seem to enter the html editor mode. That's really important when I want to create very custom attributes, such as UTLs.

Bugs (I've gone with the Helix Ultimate template:

  1. Row Containers seem to be hit and miss. Some of them are inserted as divs, others as sections and there's no consistency with the widths. While Helix uses "container" classes, page builder insists using it's proprietary "sppb-x-container" classes, meaning double code overheads for no reason, but also multiple places requiring modification if you want to have a wider than normal window frame (for super large screens).

  2. You've introduced more viewports, which seems great at firsst, but a) You only have tablet and mobile column options. b) I assume you use min-width operators, instead of max-width operators, so I have to literally re-key values over and over and over, because they do not automatically flow down viewports. c) The containers used don't even have sufficient padding - no idea why, but they're pretty much hugging the screen edges (max 15px or so) - this wasn't how it worked before.

  3. The front-end editor is poor, I disliked using it before because it was super finecky and now it's worse. To get to edit a page needs a huge amount of unnecessary clicks and extra tabs opened, and I've no idea why.

Now, I don't know if this is because of me using Helix Ultimate, but so far the experience sucks terribly and when time costs money, this is clearly silly.

The above said, I have yet to try edit page builder-powered modules and articles, so I have no comments relating to those, yet. While Google penalises excessive page loads, this feels to be going in the opposite direction.

I've been a dev subscriber for probably around 5 years, but right now, sadly, even Wix is looking a better option.

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3 Answers
Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski
Accepted Answer
Senior Staff 3 years ago #80932

Hi,

Thank you for all the votes/feeedback, both critical and positive. The new version (v4.x) still has a long way to go. Our list to-do and bug is long.

Fortunately for you, we will be supporting SPPB 3.x for the next two years.

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Brian
Brian
Accepted Answer
2 years ago #109165

I found this by tying in "page builder 4 sucks". I hate it as well. Opening multiple new tabs and multiple clicks just to do simple things. Everything is buried under 100 new menus. Page Builder 3 is perfect and i keep using it on new sites over v4. Please just go back to the way 3 is

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Paul Frankowski
Paul Frankowski
Accepted Answer
Senior Staff 2 years ago #109175

We will add back-end editor for SPPB 4.x soon, that will bring simile to your faces.

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