RE: How Can I Find The Page, In Admin That Matches The Site's URL Or Page?
Kimberly A Hitchens
I realize that this sounds like a stupid question, but once you add a TITLE to a page, in SPP Page Builder, in the admin, you then can't easily FIND it again. I have a page that I can readily find on the front end. I cannot for the life of me find it in admin. I've used every search term, etc. I can think of to find it and NOTHING. Unless the page in question retains the ID#, (in the page URL) you're screwed. There has to be a remotely uncomplicated way,other than opening EVEYR SINGLE PAGE in the admin, to find the page in question. There just HAS TO BE.
So my question is--what is it? I'm at the point--aftre nearly a year of developing my new site (I was ill for 5+ months so really. 7 months) of opening every single page and then going back in and appending the ID# to every single TITLE so that in the URL, I can find it. I've never seen anythign like this. Typically, page titles equate to URLS and you can find them. NOT in SPPPB. Is there some setting that I (and the web consultants that recommended this to me) missed adding????
So...what's the trick? Private info included below.
This is now V5.x, recently updated. When I was running 3.8 or whatever (so that I could edit in admin), the articles were sequenced so in the PAGES pag so that I could quickly find that page and it's brethren, but not now.
Help? Please? What's the key here?
Paul Frankowski
Accepted AnswerHi Kimberly,
In general, Titles of Pages from SPPB =/= alias or page title used in Menu item. Those two different things, becuase it's Menu item decide what alias or page title would be used. But if you would use this same page title as menu item, you can use Search feature on pages list.
If we talk about Articles (even with SPPB mode inside) - you have search field etc. Nothing has changed since SPPB 3.8.x, It's still this same Joomla Search field.
anyway, I cannot login
Username and password do not match or you do not have an account yet.
Paul Frankowski
Accepted AnswerEven without access I can still show you EXTRA TIP how to find things....
let's say that you "forgot" what page/article was used here:
your-domain.biz/main-showcase-entrance/print-formatting-showcase
- Copy the last part of site alias "print-formatting-showcase"
- Go to Menus > Main Menu > Search field > paste phrase > click "search" icon
- After a second you should see Menu item that used it (in general one result, if name was unique)
- Open in edit mode (click title)
- In "Details" tab check what component (menu item type) and content (article, page) was used there. That's all.
Example from my demo site
Peter Dowse
Accepted AnswerYou can also look at the code in developer tools and that will tell you the page ID that is allocated to it in Page Builder.
If you're not sure how to get to developer tools, use chrome and navigate to your page, then hit the F12 button. Note - Safari and Firefox also have their own version of developer tools in their browsers.
Paul Frankowski
Accepted AnswerPeter, there are many methods... but source code may look "scary" for beginners.
Thx
Kimberly A Hitchens
Accepted AnswerHi:
- Firstly, answer 1 assumes that article names/titles are remotly unique. They absolutely are not on my site. I'm a bit surprised that you think you have to EXPLAIN to someone how to search.
- The info about the Page Builder ID from @Peter Dowse was useful, thank you.
- Well, I can't speak for "beginners." I stupidly allowed myself to be talked into SPPPB and honestly, it's a choice I've regretted pretty much every moment I've used it. I see why some beginners may well love it--the whole idea of Wix-ish Drag-drop and all that, but I'm happier working in the HTML and CSS in the backend. I find SPPPB to be endlessly frustrating and it makes normal site development pretty annoying.
- I finally realized that the biggest issue in the arena that was driving me crazy (matching "pages" in the back end with site pages with entirely unrelated url/names/titles) is what happens with any SPPPB page, once you assign it to a menu item--and then it's a nightmare to find. At that point, @Peter Dowse's info was the most helpful. I freely admit that I've found Joomla's approach to page-building, menus, etc. flatly stupid since day 1 of using it starting in 2015-2017 or so and through today. Still don't love it, but most CMS'es have been so dumbed down that they're all nightmaris to use now. Thus, I can't completely blame THAT on SPPPB. But SPPPB has plenty of issues that could stand added development--things like not being able to point a slider at a directory to pick up images and the like, but being forced to upload the images one at a time. BOGGLING to me that a slider exists that...primitive.
Thank you, both and especially Peter Dowse. Yes, Mr. Frankowski, I accidentally gave you the wrong login info--that's the wrong pwd for the development/testing site. Sorry about that, but...I figured out what I needed shortly after posting this, vis-a-vis the menu issue.