Thanks Jeanette
ChatGPT is an ever increasing go to for help isn't it?
I'm not sure how I feel about it still as I have always enjoyed talking to people and developers directly but it quickly accesses everything and seems to help a lot.
My friend ChatGPT has come up with slightly different options for me to try but has overlap on your fix for sure.
It is telling me to try this first:
Phase 1 — Get a stable baseline (no optimisers)
Turn OFF all optimisation/deferral.
Helix Ultimate → Advanced → Performance: turn OFF Move JS to bottom, Defer JS, and any CSS/JS combine/minify.
Ensure Bootstrap loads exactly once.
SP Page Builder → Integration/Advanced: set Load Bootstrap to Disabled/Use Template so Helix is the only source.
Clear Joomla & template caches.
Lock in the Off-canvas setting.
Templates → Helix Ultimate → Template Options → Menu → Offcanvas: click a layout so it shows a blue border → Save.
Test the menu on a real phone.
If it now works 100%: the root cause was script order/duplication/deferral → proceed to Phase 4 to re-enable optimisation safely.
If it still misbehaves: continue.
Add a tiny logger (copy-paste)
Place this in Template Options → Custom Code → Before </body> (or in a small JS file that’s not deferred):
--script--
window.onerror = function (m,u,l,c,e){console.log("[ERR]",m,u+":"+l+":"+c,e&&e.stack);}
window.onunhandledrejection = function(e){console.log("[PROMISE REJECTION]", e.reason);}
document.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",function(){
var hasBS=!!window.bootstrap;
console.log("[CHECK] bootstrap:", hasBS? "present":"MISSING");
try{console.log("[CHECK] Offcanvas:", hasBS && typeof bootstrap.Offcanvas);}catch(e){console.log("[CHECK] Offcanvas error",e);}
var bs=Array.from(document.scripts).map(s=>s.src).filter(s=>/bootstrap(.bundle)?(.min)?.js/i.test(s));
console.log("[CHECK] bootstrap scripts:", bs.length, bs);
var toggles=document.querySelectorAll('[data-bs-toggle="offcanvas"]');
toggles.forEach(function(el){
el.addEventListener("click", function(){
var sel=el.getAttribute("data-bs-target");
console.log("[CLICK] toggle ->", sel);
if(window.bootstrap && sel){
var t=document.querySelector(sel);
if(t){ var oc=bootstrap.Offcanvas.getOrCreateInstance(t); console.log("[CLICK] instance ok", !!oc); }
}
}, {passive:true});
});
});
--/script--
Interpretation:
bootstrap: MISSING or Offcanvas: undefined/error → script order/duplicate Bootstrap/defer problem.
bootstrap scripts: 2 (or more) → duplicate Bootstrap (often Helix + SP Page Builder or an optimiser).
No errors and clicks log fine, but taps inside panel don’t work → overlay/z-index issue (try the CSS below).
Optional, scoped CSS overlay fix (only while panel is open)
Add to Custom CSS:
.offcanvas { z-index: 1051; }
.offcanvas-backdrop { z-index: 1050; }
body.offcanvas-open .sp-overlay,
body.offcanvas-open .sppb-shape-divider,
body.offcanvas-open .cookie-consent-overlay { pointer-events: none !important; }
body.offcanvas-open .cookiebar, body.offcanvas-open .cookiebar * { pointer-events: auto !important; }
.offcanvas .dropdown-menu { position: static; }
If this makes taps inside the panel work, you had an overlay stacking issue. Keep it.
Optional safety net (if you must)
If you need a belt-and-braces initialiser, keep this small script (load it after Bootstrap, not deferred). It guarantees an Offcanvas instance exists on tap:
--script--
document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', function(){
document.querySelectorAll('[data-bs-toggle="offcanvas"]').forEach(function(el){
el.addEventListener('click', function(){
var sel=el.getAttribute('data-bs-target'); if(!sel) return;
var target=document.querySelector(sel); if(!target) return;
bootstrap.Offcanvas.getOrCreateInstance(target).show();
}, {passive:true});
});
});
--/script--
I have contacted a few of our visitors who are experiencing the problem to ask if they can try things again and let me know.
Ziaul? Do you think ChatGPT is close to getting things right and could this be the issues we are having? I'm worried I don't know Helix and SPPB well but really need a fix for everyone for the menus that aren't working for some people.