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SP Page Builder 4 editor is a mess, want the old one back!

Asked by Davide Reitano 3 years ago Last activity 3 years ago

I'm using SP Page builder since years, i LOVED the editor on the 3.x version.
Now, i upgraded to Joomla 4 and PB 4.x
I am forced to use this frontend editor that is bringing me thinking to get rid of Page Builder forever.
drag and drop no longer works, creating rows/colums/addons takes years, but the worst thing is...

How in the world if i set a section/addon/anything to be hidden on desktop, i can't see in in an EDITOR?
How am i supposed to EDIT a page if the thing disappears?

IMHO, as a user, this new updated is causing only a lot of stress and changes instead of improving the UX.

When we can expect the BACKEND editor back?

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Mehtaz Afsana Borsha Staff
3 years ago

Hello

Thank you for your feedback. I understand your point. We actually created SP Page Builder with the vision of making it the most professional page-building tool available in Joomla for website creators. And, with each upgrade over the years, we have tried our best to push it forward in terms of capability and innovation. However, we understand that many of you are dissatisfied with the decision to remove the backend editor from SP Page Builder 4.0. That’s why we have decided to give regular updates to the 3.x series as we have been for at least the next three years.

-Regards.

Samuel Desloges
3 years ago

Hello,

There were things that could be done in the backend, but which are impossible to do in the frontend.

I also hope for a return of the backend.
It was nice to have both possibilities (back and front).
It was a win-win situation for everyone!

Each view had its advantages and disadvantages, I switched regularly depending on what I wanted to do.

Mehtaz Afsana Borsha Staff
3 years ago

Thanks for your opinion. I will inform about it with our team. You can now close this post by accepting the answer.

Thanks.

sydk2017
3 years ago

I agree - I will never use SP Page Builder 4. If you stop updating it I will have to look for another Page Builder. You guys really need to stop trying to fix things that are not broken!

Bob
3 years ago

Hello. I am new to SP Page Builder and am heavily learning ONLY THROUGH the front end editor for Joomla 3 and PHP7. I am very worried that when I move to Joomla 4 by May 2023 at the latest I will be left feeling unable to create what I can in Joomla 3 with SP Page Builder.

Is the Joomla 4 front end editor not as flexible and good as the current one I am using for Joomla 3?

I seem to be picking up that users of SP Page Builder are not liking what Joomla 4 SP Page Builder front end editor is like.

Can I please get some reassurances or comments that it isn't as good before I invest more and create more SP Page Builder content?

Thank you to all who read this - happy for honest replies even if it might be bad news

Mehtaz Afsana Borsha Staff
3 years ago

Hi Bob

I understand that some of our users are not liking SPPB4 because of removing the backend. But please don't worry I think the stable version will be released very soon. Already so many bugs are now fixed. Also, to speed up the development process as well where every change is visual and instant. You can explore more on our frontend editor, but I will share your concerns with my Team, in the future :)

https://www.joomshaper.com/documentation/sp-page-builder/sp-page-builder-4/front-end-editor

sydk2017
3 years ago

I have been upgrading websites to Joomla 4 and SP Page Builder Pro does not work with the front end editor - but the back end is fine. I do not use SP Page builder 4 because I think it's worthless - but they say Pro will be supported for at least 3 more years. Hopefully by then they have all of the bugs out of 4.

Bob
3 years ago

Thanks for the replies and the opinions. I am still a little confused sorry.
We are using Joomla 3 and I think SPPB 3 for this. We like the front-end editor as our team are more visual. They haven't really used the backend editor much as we are moving over from Nicepage which is like the SPPB front end I think.

My understanding is that Joomla 4 needs SPPB4 but this ONLY has a front-end editor which is now not as good or as stable as the front end editor in SPPB3.

AmI right or does SPPB4 have a back end editor also? But the front end editor isn't as good anymore as SPPB3

My colleague who is learning the front end editor in SPP3 with Joomla 3 is worried that when we move to Joomla 4 she won't be able to work like she is now.

Can someone please confirm for me?

Is SPPB4 only a front end editor now? And if so, is it very different to using SPPB3?

Thanks again to everyone reading this

patrick aaron
3 years ago

sppb4 has no back end, there is no sensible reason to upgrade it.
the new version is riddled with bugs that have no fixes and will slow down or entirely stop production requiring back-up ir waiting until a new version is released that hopefully solves some of these bugs. even with no bugs the new version looks better but is not as functional.

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