Hello

Thank you for your feedback. I understand your point. We actually created SP Page Builder with the vision of making it the most professional page-building tool available in Joomla for website creators. And, with each upgrade over the years, we have tried our best to push it forward in terms of capability and innovation. However, we understand that many of you are dissatisfied with the decision to remove the backend editor from SP Page Builder 4.0. That’s why we have decided to give regular updates to the 3.x series as we have been for at least the next three years.

-Regards.

Hello,

There were things that could be done in the backend, but which are impossible to do in the frontend.

I also hope for a return of the backend. It was nice to have both possibilities (back and front). It was a win-win situation for everyone!

Each view had its advantages and disadvantages, I switched regularly depending on what I wanted to do.

Thanks for your opinion. I will inform about it with our team. You can now close this post by accepting the answer.

Thanks.

I agree - I will never use SP Page Builder 4. If you stop updating it I will have to look for another Page Builder. You guys really need to stop trying to fix things that are not broken!

Agreed!

Hello. I am new to SP Page Builder and am heavily learning ONLY THROUGH the front end editor for Joomla 3 and PHP7. I am very worried that when I move to Joomla 4 by May 2023 at the latest I will be left feeling unable to create what I can in Joomla 3 with SP Page Builder.

Is the Joomla 4 front end editor not as flexible and good as the current one I am using for Joomla 3?

I seem to be picking up that users of SP Page Builder are not liking what Joomla 4 SP Page Builder front end editor is like.

Can I please get some reassurances or comments that it isn't as good before I invest more and create more SP Page Builder content?

Thank you to all who read this - happy for honest replies even if it might be bad news

Hi Bob

I understand that some of our users are not liking SPPB4 because of removing the backend. But please don't worry I think the stable version will be released very soon. Already so many bugs are now fixed. Also, to speed up the development process as well where every change is visual and instant. You can explore more on our frontend editor, but I will share your concerns with my Team, in the future :)

https://www.joomshaper.com/documentation/sp-page-builder/sp-page-builder-4/front-end-editor

I have been upgrading websites to Joomla 4 and SP Page Builder Pro does not work with the front end editor - but the back end is fine. I do not use SP Page builder 4 because I think it's worthless - but they say Pro will be supported for at least 3 more years. Hopefully by then they have all of the bugs out of 4.

Thanks for the replies and the opinions. I am still a little confused sorry. We are using Joomla 3 and I think SPPB 3 for this. We like the front-end editor as our team are more visual. They haven't really used the backend editor much as we are moving over from Nicepage which is like the SPPB front end I think.

My understanding is that Joomla 4 needs SPPB4 but this ONLY has a front-end editor which is now not as good or as stable as the front end editor in SPPB3.

AmI right or does SPPB4 have a back end editor also? But the front end editor isn't as good anymore as SPPB3

My colleague who is learning the front end editor in SPP3 with Joomla 3 is worried that when we move to Joomla 4 she won't be able to work like she is now.

Can someone please confirm for me?

Is SPPB4 only a front end editor now? And if so, is it very different to using SPPB3?

Thanks again to everyone reading this

sppb4 has no back end, there is no sensible reason to upgrade it. the new version is riddled with bugs that have no fixes and will slow down or entirely stop production requiring back-up ir waiting until a new version is released that hopefully solves some of these bugs. even with no bugs the new version looks better but is not as functional.

it would be awesome if a 3.x version would be released for J4, unfortunately who have 4 like me is stuck with a bugged release

when it will be updated at least for its bugs?

To be honest, looked into SPPB4 and I think when all bugs are fixed and when there is a stable version it has many new features we can use over SPPB3. Lack of backend is maybe not that great for some users. Maybe the devs can add that in time. For now a stable version we finally can use for live sites has priority.

Yes I agree. Thanks Robert.

Thank you

Below I have copied Davide's comment and want to know

Can you use version 3.x with Joomla 4 now?

Davide Reitano 2 days ago

it would be awesome if a 3.x version would be released for J4, unfortunately who have 4 like me is stuck with a bugged release

when it will be updated at least for its bugs?

@Bob, Have build most of my sites with J4 and SPPB3. Works great and all running on minimal php8 or higher.

@Mehtaz, On social Joomshaper admins say it's stable and on this forum/messages I get warning to not use SPPB4 for live sites yet. This is quit confusing.

see: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sppagebuilder/permalink/2112204838971102/ Good news

Hi guys

Please check this out

https://www.facebook.com/groups/sppagebuilder/permalink/2112204838971102/

Yes, you can use SPPB 3 in Joomla 4. It works fine.

do you know how to get PERMANENTLY rid of this page every time i enter SPPB even if i check "don't show next time"?

Here, Here!!

Hi Guys,

I have just upgraded to SPPB 4 and agree with most opinions...it's totally useless with out the back end editor. Editting anything is a pain...you can't even highlight text or content and copy or move. It's just wasting my time learning something that is inefficient. :( Just put back the backend for those that have the skill to use it and the frontend for those who like to use that. I am going back to SPPB 3 and if the backend is not added to Version 4 then I too will dump and not use it. As mentioned, if it isn't broke don't fix it !!!

thanks Wayne

Hi @all,

I completely agree! I created my page with SPPB3 and worked fine. Now I upgraded to SPPB4 and regret to have done so and also payed money for it. I'm not able anymore to make changes to my existing components. I wanted to add a simple link to get Google reviews. Without the former backend editor my page is completely useless as I can't make any updates anymore.

I think it's better to create my page with Angular by my own and don't prolonge my account anymore.

Cheers Steffen

I read often 'I want the old one back'. In my opinion PB3 is still around with 3 years of support. PB 4 is complety new with also a lot of new features. They also annouched backend editing will return, they fix bugs and are busy to improve with every update.

I can't imagin JS stop support for PB3 until they have a version that works for everybody. No one will benefit from that, not the team, not the users.

Doing a big update on a public live site is never a good idea. Use the backup to test first. Everyone knows they are still working on SP4. Knowing this best is to stick with public sites at your current PB3 version.

Using PB4, use a fresh install on a local machine or on a sub domain. When you run into a bug report it so they can solve it. Doing this the sooner there will be a version we can use to the max.

Kind regards,

Thanks for your opinions. We will take care of it.

The problem is not "to like or not to like" this change. I have got my home page changed and now I need to come back. It is not a problems of opinions. This is a damage!

Our team is working on solving these issues. Hopefully on our next release these problems will be solved.