How to move the menu below the header

Hi. To make it you should turn OFF predifined layout and create your own Header and section containing menu below the header using Layout tab.

I'm sorry, I'm missing something in your documentation. I can not get the menu to move down to where I need it to go.

The only way that I've found is if I create a joomla menu module in postion named "menu" , insert it in the layout on the row where I want it. Save it, but then go back and unpublish the menu module. It seems to go where I want, but it makes no sense and I still need to get it centered.

I really would like some help with this , please.

Hi Matt.

Indeed, the publication of the module in the menu position and then its turning off does not make sense. The menu that is selected in the settings of the template (Menu tab) will be displayed in the menu position, wherever this position is.

For centering, you need to use CSS. There are no settings in the template for this.

Good morning,
I understand (I think) how it is supposed to work, but when choosing the menu position, it isn't listed in the column options list. Here is a screenshot of the list: https://prnt.sc/hMVI7u5Lcbgt

Is there something else that I'm missing?

Hi. You already have Menu position in Header.

Duplication of positions is unacceptable. Remove this from Header, and then select in another place.

That is left over from what I was saying before:
"The only way that I've found is if I create a joomla menu module in postion named "menu" , insert it in the layout on the row where I want it. Save it, but then go back and unpublish the menu module. It seems to go where I want, but it makes no sense and I still need to get it centered."

Here is a screenshot showing that with the Menu Module published and and the condition that it shows whereever the template is shaper_helixultimate. there is no "menu" position available to choose in the Column options list of positions. So how can I add a menu to the header in a custom layout?

https://prnt.sc/Oz5BQ_QocAgY

Hi Matt.

I can’t understand what the problem with your template is.

Judging by these positions, the question arises - whether you really use raw Helix Ultimate, or is it another template based on Helix Ultimate.

There are no such positions and problems in raw Helix Ultimate that you described.

Helix Ultimate TEMPLATE and Helix Ultimate FRAMEFORK not the same things. Helix Ultimate -based third -party templates can have their own problems. Therefore, you should indicate the name of the template.

... Perhaps you have not turned off predefined Header

Hi Pavel,
Those positions are from Artisteer which is the template system this site was originally designed on. They are no longer supporting that template software, and the template won't work with Joomla 4. So I'm trying to redesign the site using SPPagebuilder and Helix Ultimate Framework so I can upgrade the site to J4. So those module positions are for the old design of the site (live version).

Predefined header is definitely off.

All of the predefined headers seem to work correctly, but unfortunately the client wants the menu under the slider/header. Is there another way I can accomplish this? Can you build me a header where the menu is in that position, below the header or under the other components in a header? I've got 200 other sites I need to or want to convert to sppagebuilder, so having something created that could be imported in would be a wonderful thing.

I hope this all makes sense