Helix Ultimate 2.0.5 still does not work in multilanguage

Hello Anne, any forecast on the update of the Helix Ultimate 2 that solved these problems? Not a priority for the team? I'm glad they are releasing new templates and updates, but if we can't use them on multilingual sites for our clients, it's of no use to us. We are losing a month of our membership as we cannot do anything without a working framework. I think you don't consider this fact

Please remember that the workaround doesn't fix wrong page language!
This will be generated for every language.
<html lang="en-gb" dir="ltr">
For german p.a. it should be
<html lang="de-de" dir="ltr">

Hi,

Perhaps you can give us some info about the fix to put it directly in our code.

Best regards,
Stéphane

As per my research, the Factory::getLanguage() function is called too early by the onAfterInitialise() function event of the plugin.

If you comment out the $template = Helper::loadTemplateData(); instruction, the problem disapears.
Below the modified function while waiting for a definitive fix

    public function onAfterInitialise()
    {
        //$template = Helper::loadTemplateData();

        //if (isset($template->template) && !empty($template->template))
        //{
            $bootstrapPath = JPATH_ROOT . '/plugins/system/helixultimate/html/layouts/libraries/cms/html/bootstrap.php';

            if ($this->app->isClient('site') && \file_exists($bootstrapPath))
            {
                if (!class_exists('HelixBootstrap'))
                {
                    require_once $bootstrapPath;
                }

                HTMLHelper::register('bootstrap.tooltip', ['HelixBootstrap', 'tooltip']);
                HTMLHelper::register('bootstrap.popover', ['HelixBootstrap', 'popover']);
            }
        //}
    }

Jeremy
https://www.DayCounts.com

Just to confirm the fix from Jeremy work fine with Falang

in the file plugins/system/helixultimate/helixultimate.php
replace the onAfterInitialise() function line 70 to

    public function onAfterInitialise()
    {

        $bootstrapPath = JPATH_ROOT . '/plugins/system/helixultimate/html/layouts/libraries/cms/html/bootstrap.php';

        if ($this->app->isClient('site') && \file_exists($bootstrapPath))
        {
            if (!class_exists('HelixBootstrap'))
            {
                require_once $bootstrapPath;
            }

            HTMLHelper::register('bootstrap.tooltip', ['HelixBootstrap', 'tooltip']);
            HTMLHelper::register('bootstrap.popover', ['HelixBootstrap', 'popover']);
        }
    }

The problem is due to the Helper::loadTemplateData(); it's done before the language set properly in Joomal and the menu is loaded and cached with the false language.

Stéphane
Falang Team
www.faboba.com

Do everything possible to solve this problem, it is very serious that, after more than two months, it still has not been solved. None of your multilanguage templates can be updated, none of the new ones can be used in multilanguage. A little communication with clients would be appreciated.

Ok, it's done now in the onAfterDispatch event and no more in the onAfterInitialise

It's work now out of the box on my system (with Falang)

Best regards,
Stéphane
Falang Team
www.faboba.com

Hi,

The bug is back in 2.0.7
you put back in the onAfterInitialise() the load bootstrap.

/**
 * The application initialization event.
 *
 * @return  void
 * @since   4.0.7
 */
public function onAfterInitialise()
{
    $this->registerBootstrap();
}

Stéphane
Falang Team

really this soft will never be without bugs

Hi,

i think a fix can be this

    /**
     * Register the missing bootstrap methods tooltip and popover.
     *
     * @return void
     * @since 2.0.6
     * @since 2.0.8 don't test template not necessary and load the menu before the language is set
     */
    private function registerBootstrap()
    {
        $bootstrapPath = JPATH_ROOT . '/plugins/system/helixultimate/html/layouts/libraries/cms/html/bootstrap.php';

        if ($this->app->isClient('site') && \file_exists($bootstrapPath))
        {
            if (!class_exists('HelixBootstrap'))
            {
                require_once $bootstrapPath;
            }

            HTMLHelper::register('bootstrap.tooltip', ['HelixBootstrap', 'tooltip']);
            HTMLHelper::register('bootstrap.popover', ['HelixBootstrap', 'popover']);
        }
    }

the test on template seem not very usefull when the helixplugin plugin is published it's always set and the value is not used.

        $template = Helper::loadTemplateData();

        if (isset($template->template) && !empty($template->template))

Stéphane
Falang Team

Hi
i had problems with Falang and Helix 2.0.7 (Error 403 and 404).
Tested with SEF "on" and "off" - doesn't work.
Solution for me: Delete Helix Framework Plugin and install Helix Ultimate 2.0.6 completly new.
So Helix Framework and Template are in Version 2.0.6
Now Falang component do it's job as expected.
Thanks to Stéphane for the hint to this post.

Hope Joomshaper Team will fix the error quickly so we can update to 2.0.X

Best regards - Holger

Stéphane, thanks for alerting me to this post for my related issue posted at https://www.joomshaper.com/forum/question/11764.

I guess the safest thing for me (non-programmer) is to wait for Joomshaper to follow this ticket and fix 2.07 for a new release? I will monitor this page carefully since it seems Joomshaper cannot simply respond that the template is fine, and I need better extensions ;-).

Thanks,

Allen

I wish you luck Allen, they ignore me :(

Hi Ofi,
we do our very best !!! ;-)
Please "listen" to the problems and fix it as fast as you can. Stéphans "Falang" component is the easiest and best solution for multilingual sites in Joomla. So it's important that it works together with the good Joomshaper stuff (helix framework and PS page builder) - especially for those like me with websites with mixed content (some realised in SP Pagebuilder and some in native Joomla content articles)
Thanks - Holger

@Ofi Khan, This forum issue posted by @bouey also relates to issue I posted at https://www.joomshaper.com/forum/question/11764.

Any recommendations are welcome.

Regards,

Allen

Sorry guys, hopefully not enough. This needs to be fixed. That's not a question.
Or do you drive your car into the garage with a problem and hopefully the mechanic will fix it? What would you think about such a garage. Very bad don't you think?

That's exactly what your reaction is about bugs in your products. If we're in a good mood, we might do a fix. Let's hope we're in a good mood.

This can't be serious for a company that claims to have the best page builder, the best template framework. Or what do you think?

I'm glad that after 6 months the issue has reached the programmers' table. I don't understand this lack of coordination, as the colleague @jakob.beyeler says:" his can't be serious for a company that claims to have the best page builder, the best template framework. "

I am following this thread to compare our progress on similar issues I posted at https://www.joomshaper.com/forum/question/11764. I explained that Stéphane's (@bouey) helixultimatephp plugin posted to github 7 months ago (https://github.com/JoomShaper/helix-ultimate/tree/master/plugins/system/helixultimate) seems to fix some of my issues, but the development team can't find time to investigate even though I set up a staging site solely to make issue investigation easy. The staging site was set up weeks ago, my ticket was assigned to the development team, and nobody has touched the staging site since.

Helix Ultimate 2.0.8 released. It doesn't work in multilanguage. I don't say anything else because I'm quite angry @Ofi Khan

Same problem here and angry. It is more than a few months with this problem. What are developer doing??? I'I'm paying user with license in other your product. Respect us!

Joomshaper team is coordinated? Your will is to ignore the problem? Listen to the users and fix the multilanguage problem in Helix Ultimate

Problem commented on your twitter, it may be more effective, so they stop ignoring us

I totally agree on this.
It´s really a shame that many issues still aren´t fixed after 7 months of waiting while the community pinpoints exactely where the critical problems exist in the code.
How can it be that such problems, added to the working board, aren´t fixed after months and several updates in between.
You advertise Helix Ultimate as the best Joomla framework, sorry but version 2 is far from that right now.
I am still on J3 with HU1.1.4 on a couple of critical sites as long as these problems persist although I would love to migrate them to Joomla 4 with a stable Helix Ultimate 2 without these bugs.
Please take the feedback of your customers serious and fix these problems asap, it can not be that it takes more than 4 releases to fix a problem.

I'm stuck on J3 and HU1.1.4 too, since Joomshaper simply won't address the issues. Terrible.

Hello Ofi Khan,

In Admin of my website I see:
Extensions - Manage:
shaper_helixultimate 2.0.8
System - Helix Ultimate Framework 2.0.8

Do I delete both of them before installing helix-ultimate-205.zip ?

In the meantime I downloaded helix-ultimate-205.zip and installed it.
Now I see:
Extensions - Manage:
shaper_helixultimate 2.0.5
System - Helix Ultimate Framework 2.0.8

There is no improvement on the website.
How can I downgrade the Framework as well?

Kind regards,
Edze de Boer

Hi Joomshaper Team,
after spending weeks to try and find a possible languange bug on my site, I finally stumbled across this forum thread. I have exactly the same problem as everybody else. I've built an extensive multilingual site using Helix Ultimate as Template and Falang as translation service, which so far has worked great.
Unfortunately, after upgrading my site in a test environment (both in Joomla 3 and Joomal 4) there are constantly problems with Helix Ultimate. At one stage I even had to downgrade back to Helix 3 to get things to work properly. My main site is therefore still stuck on older versions, both Joomla and Helix primarily due to the language errors in Helix Ultimate. This is far from ideal.
The multi-language error is a SERIOUS error, which, if not fixed, will force me to look at an alternative template framework system - completely moving away from Helix and with it probably unfortunately also SP Page Builder.
A multilingual site is general standard these days. It is simply not acceptable to just state "create multiple templates for the various languages". Creating multiple templates and with it multiple menus for each language has significant downsides in both development as well as website performance and search engine optimization.
I really do hope that the comments and problems described in this threat are being taking seriously and addressed as a matter of urgency. And yes, the same problem with multi-language still exists in the latest version 2.0.8.
I hope you will be able to release a new FIXED version very soon (rather within days not weeks or months).

Hi guys,

Just to be sure that I use default software, I built a Joomla 3.10.8 website with the Helix Ultimate v2.0.8 template and the FaLang 3.10.4 Basic Language Switcher.

For a webshop like J2Store it is important to use FaLang, because we want to place all products and stock in one database, regardless of the used language.

PHP 7.4.28.

I have no problems whatsoever with multi languages.

https://edzedeboer.nl/joomla310x/en/

Kind regards,
Edze de Boer

It's not about whether it works with falang or not falang, it's about the framework's multilanguage not working

Hi Lluis,

I suppose you mean using the default Joomla Language Switcher instead of the FaLang Language Switcher in combination with Helix Ultimate 2.0.8? I will also test that combination.

Kind regards, Edze de Boer

Hi guys,

I installed Joomla 3.10.8 with Dutch as second language, during installation I chose Use Multi Language, with examples Article (en-gb) and Artikel (nl-nl).
During installation the Joomla System - Language Filter is activated and the Joomla Language Switcher installed.
Working fine without and with Helix Ultimate 2.0.8.

https://edzedeboer.nl/joomlang/en/

Kind regards, Edze de Boer

It works if you assign each menu item to the corresponding template, as the current Helix Ultimate documentation says. This documentation has been modified to hide the bug, but in this video you can see how Helix Ultimate multilanguage originally worked. That's how it should work. The bug is recognized by the joomshaper team, what there is is no solution. Try it my friend and see.
https://youtu.be/tjWBb6k4sg4

Hi Lluis,

I copied the helix ultimate template and named them
shaper_helixultimate-EN
shaper_helixultimate-NL

In Details - Template Options:
Menu: Main Menu (en-GB)
Menu: Main Menu (nl-NL)

https://edzedeboer.nl/joomlang/en/

The only thing that I changed is:

In Menu Assignment for each template:
Toggle Selection Main Menu (en-GB), items Home EN and Contact EN
Toggle Selection Main Menu (nl-NL), items Home NL and Contact NL

I linked the Menu-items to the SPPB Pages.

Everything is working fine.

Kind regards, Edze de Boer

how can it be, that this still does not work on 2.0.8???

Stephane from falang provides a fix, but you have to manually change a plugin-file. why can't this be merged finally???

It seems that the Joomshaper team has found the solution to the problem of multilingual sites. Please go through this thread and check

https://www.joomshaper.com/forum/question/12041

The last version work fine with Falang multilanguage system, i see you change the code of the registerBootstrap function

you don't use this anymore

$template = Helper::loadTemplateData();

    if (isset($template->template) && !empty($template->template))
    {

Best regards,
Stéphane