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Do you have examples of the "simple animated modules"?

@Toufiq I am writing temporary login credentials in the Hidden content. Thank you for looking into it.

@joe See Feature 3, Feature 4, Feature 11, Content 7 and Testimonial 2 on this page: https://www.joomshaper.com/page-builder/blocks

@MICHAEL

*See Feature 3, Feature 4, Feature 11, Content 7 and Testimonial 2 on this page:

Are you sure your issue occurred for this elements? Cause, you are using Flex Template and which is overridded our page builder maximum addon. You should check first with Joomla Protostar Template. Thanks

I can't be sure of the exact elements used. It's true that the template has overrides for SP Page Builder, but we have deleted many of them, because they were either completely disfunctional or far from the SP Page Builder prototype that we wanted to have.

I am providing below, a link to a menu item with the Protostar template applied, as suggested. The aforementioned issues remain. Namely:

1. Magnific Popup is included while not used. Twice. Impact on loading time: 4138ms or 2069ms (if the system is smart enough not to load the same file with a different path twice)
2. Jquery parallax included but not used. Impact on loading time: 869ms
3. Google Font loaded, with ALL font-styles and font-sizes. Impact on loading time: 150ms

All of the above assets are loaded but not required. SP Page Builder loads 2 more CSS files with 3.1s loading time. Measurements done with GTMetrix and Protostar template.

Including SP Page Builder modules on our page has a total impact of 8.2s or 6.1s in a page using Protostar. That is a minimum of 6 seconds WITHOUT templates and additional extensions.

Thank you again for your time.

Any updates on this would be appreciated. Thanks again.

Google Font loaded, with ALL font-styles and font-sizes. Impact on loading time: 150ms

Google Font is the only thing you can affect. Just remove any font settings in blocks and never use it.

Everything else is a fee for the possibility of visual editing. Any page builder has all these problems. It just can not work differently.

Also, in the SP PB module there is a drawback that all its styles are placed inline in Body along with the rest of the module code. Therefore, use SP PB module only if it is justified. I think it works so, because it is can not work differently too.

Thank you for your response! I have removed the Google font from the template, and only left in inside PageBuilder, so that at least it isn't loaded twice. However, that IS STILL NOT a proper solution, because in the template, I can control exactly which font-styles and sizes to load from Google. PageBuilder could offer this with a simple global option.

What you say about SP Page Builder is very interesting. If I understand correctly, you are saying we should just accept the fact that SP Page Builder will add some unnecessary codes and files. This is very interesting, because in your blog, in an article with the title "Ultimate Guide to High Google PageSpeed Score for Websites on Joomla", you advertise SP Page Builder using the following words:

Unreliable page builders can make your site bloated by adding unnecessary codes and files thereby slowing your site down. But SP Page Builder won’t do that!

I am willing to accept the 10000 lines of CSS compressed into the sppagebuilder.css, as well as the need for animate.css and the 3000 lines of JS compressed into sppagebuilder.js, but don't you think that this is going too far?

If you are saying these files NEED to always be loaded, why don't you include them into sppagebuilder.css and .js, so that we can AT LEAST have 2 files loaded instead of 10? This is web optimization 101. The first page of the first lesson.

Suggested solution

Either add options and allow us to select if we want to include these files (with our own risk of breaking our sites) or include them directly in sppagebuilder.css and .js respectively.

I have removed the Google font from the template, and only left in inside PageBuilder

You should remove it from PageBuilder, not from template.

you advertise SP Page Builder using the following words

It's not my words. I am not an employee of Joomshaper team, therefore, I can afford the critical comments written above.

I have long been talking about these problems. But there are no changes. Unfortunately, there is no reaction to this problem from the developers.

Constantly using Page Builder in my work for several years, I studied how it works and share with you my experience. Perhaps SP PB module should have been designed in a different way. But making changes can now lead to the fact that the sites of many users are collapsed.

There is always a fork of ideas when creating software. And choosing one or another way, in the future it is difficult to get away from it.

There are many other points related to optimization and SEO which are not quite thought out. There are such problems in many products of other developers. And we as users have to humility and look for workarounds.

I recently had a client who asked to make all the work in the source code without using any page builder and template-framework. And then I was able to make a page speed values for mobile 98, for desktop 100. (Joomla 4, overrided Cassiopea, HTML/CSS/JS). And I was happy that I could build everything I want. Only this approach can give high page speed. Any page builders and templates-framework have too much on board.

My apologies. I appreciate your response. I thought this was someone from the staff.

It is true that we cannot expect perfect page speed values. However, I believe we all agree that a load of 10 asset files for every page where you want a small SP Page Builder module is irrational.

No matter what decision forks they have faced in the past, they should always allow users to configure their product. I am talking about 4 little options in an "Advanced" tab of the SP Page Builder component options. (which is inaccessible to anyone who doesn't know where to find it in the first place! ) And then, in code, it's merely an if block around the part that includes these assets in the document.

I would appreciate an answer from the staff, over a paid product.

Thanks again.

I have forward our another teammate. I hope he will explain more details about your issue. Thanks

Hi Michael,

here on the forum we cannot change or upgrade SPPB code, the "only" hope may be with the upcoming SPPB 4. Unfortunately, the actual use of SPPB always affects the speed of your web pages, no matter what Page Builder you use and for what CMS. From our side, we can only ask our developers to look deeper and improve SPPB Module in upcoming updates. I agree with you that users should have more options. Thanks for all suggestions.

About Google Fonts, as I know Greece is also in EU so you should be very careful about using those fonts loaded from US servers >> https://www.joomshaper.com/documentation/sp-page-builder/sp-page-builder-3/google-fonts-and-dsgvo

@Pavel

Thanks a lot for all your messages, suggestions. I know that your country has been and will be burdened with many EU sanctions, but I hope you will stay with us. People with huge potential, but the government ...

Hi @Paul.

Thanks for your words. I do not want Russians to become an outcast. For the most part, the people do not support what is happening. All normal people in the country are in a shock. Unfortunately, even here I can not write freely. The threat of repression is very serious. I will stay here for now it will be possible

Thank you very much @Toufiq and @Paul. I'm sorry to read about the situation @Pavel.

Dear @Paul, could you at least point out where in the SP Page Builder code could we control the addition of these scripts and styles? We would really like to have some control over which of these to add on our page.

Thanks again.

Thank you very much. This answer helps a lot.